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 Post subject: Re: Tolerant - a fantastic plan REVISED
PostPosted: 24 Sep 2010 01:11 
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http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
http://www.tellthechildrenthetruth.com/
http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Top_10_Controversial_Verses_in_the_Quran

http://freethought.mbdojo.com/debates.html#reliable

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 Post subject: Re: Tolerant - a fantastic plan REVISED
PostPosted: 24 Sep 2010 06:59 
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I am perplexed that so many of my friends are against a mosque being built near Ground Zero. I think it should be the goal of every American to be tolerant. The mosque should be allowed, in an effort to promote tolerance.


That is why I also propose, that two gay nightclubs be opened next door to the mosque thereby promoting tolerance within the mosque. We could call the clubs "The Turban Cowboy" and "You Mecca Me So Hot".

Next door should be a butcher shop that specializes in pork and have an open barbeque with spare ribs as its daily special. Across the street a very daring lingerie store called "Victoria Keeps Nothing Secret” with sexy mannequins in the window modelling the goods.

Next door to the lingerie shop, there would be room for an Adult Toy Shop (Koranal Knowledge?), its name in flashing neon lights, and on the other side a liquor store, maybe call it "Morehammered"?




@ first i thought WTF.. but i realised soon that u was just joking :cheer:

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PostPosted: 24 Sep 2010 11:16 
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i would love to see the same thing but from independet sources and not those who are founded by white supremacy,

its still different between normal muslims .. thats like 90% of them and 10% fundamentalist same with christian and even jews, still i cant belive that muslims are still hated for the attack on the twin towers cuz the al qaida (or the american goverment) blew it up
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PostPosted: 24 Sep 2010 12:02 
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Fair enough Clown but what about people who have left Islam? Oh by the way, the last link is mainly about debunking the Bible and refers to the slaughter of innocents that is allowed under Old Testament laws. So far as I am aware there is nothing about White Supremacy in any of the links I have posted so please tell me where you got that from.

Please spend a while on this site: http://www.apostatesofislam.com/



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first of all don't tarnish an entire religion based on the acts of a tiny minority, not all Muslims are extremists, the qu'r'an isn't a manual for religious hate anyone who tells you otherwise is generally picking out parts and using them out of context to further an agenda.


Second of all technically speaking it isn't a mosque they want to build its a community centre for all religions to better further religious tolerance, it's even named after a period of time in Spain when it was a Muslim country but all the 4 major religions lived there without any of this racial hatred bullshit..



but hey let's not let fact's get in the way of getting ragey over something so fucking trivial ay?





Also fun fact, currently they're renovating/rebuilding a synagogue in the middle of Beirut, which is in Lebanon, a country that's essentially been constantly at war for 40 odd years, so that's an arab democracy, with a Muslim prime minster and a Christian president allowing the rebuilding of a synagogue on what is essentially the Lebanese equivalent of ground zero, it's not a little pokey synagogue either its a giant "LOOK AT ME, LOOK HOW FUCKING GLORIOUS I AM YOU BASTARDS!!!" one.



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PostPosted: 24 Sep 2010 20:06 
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first of all don't tarnish an entire religion based on the acts of a tiny minority, not all Muslims are extremists, the qu'r'an isn't a manual for religious hate anyone who tells you otherwise is generally picking out parts and using them out of context to further an agenda.


Second of all technically speaking it isn't a mosque they want to build its a community centre for all religions to better further religious tolerance, it's even named after a period of time in Spain when it was a Muslim country but all the 4 major religions lived there without any of this racial hatred bullshit..



but hey let's not let fact's get in the way of getting ragey over something so fucking trivial ay?





Also fun fact, currently they're renovating/rebuilding a synagogue in the middle of Beirut, which is in Lebanon, a country that's essentially been constantly at war for 40 odd years, so that's an arab democracy, with a Muslim prime minster and a Christian president allowing the rebuilding of a synagogue on what is essentially the Lebanese equivalent of ground zero, it's not a little pokey synagogue either its a giant "LOOK AT ME, LOOK HOW FUCKING GLORIOUS I AM YOU BASTARDS!!!" one.


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PostPosted: 24 Sep 2010 22:00 
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I'm not one for tarnishing a religion based upon that actions of a minority but you can't get away from the fact that there is a 'holy' book that advocates the beating of women and the killing of non-believers.

I have a problem with ALL religions. The Bible contains these particular quotes on homosexuality:

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Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is an abomination.(Leviticus 18:22 KJV)

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If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.(Leviticus 20:13 KJV)


Well that's really bloody tolerant, isn't it? The Islamic 'extremists' are probably the most devout out there. They follow their book line by line and when they read a verse that tells them to kill they go and bloody well do it but you don't see Christians killing gays in the streets - if they did 90% of the clergy would be dead by now.

And what does the Quran say about women?

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Quran (4:34) orders a man to beat his wife if she doesn't obey him?
Quran 4:34: Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in their sleeping places and beat them; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great.


Kick the crap out of them if they step out of line - well there's respect for you.

All of the Abrahamic religions are bullshit and the world needs to wise up. FAST.

So there you go, I tarnish religions not based upon the actions of the minority of their followers, but by the very texts upon which they are based.



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 Post subject: Re: Tolerant - a fantastic plan REVISED
PostPosted: 24 Sep 2010 23:08 

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Poundsey {l Wrote}:

So there you go, I tarnish religions not based upon the actions of the minority of their followers, but by the very texts upon which they are based.



As with most things in life, it's how people interpret the meaning of what's written that causes trouble not what's actually written.




Also an important distinction I feel I should make

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"religion is the cause of all wars"



The thirst for power is the cause of all wars, it just so happens for most of the time humans have existed it's been religion where the real power lies, now it's mostly who controls the most resources like oil, water, minerals, metals etc



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The thirst for power is the cause of all wars, it just so happens for most of the time humans have existed it's been religion where the real power lies, now it's mostly who controls the most resources like oil, water, minerals, metals etc


I agree, don't get me wrong there are still wars that are centred around religion but even they have a possesive air about them. Whether it be land, oil, weapons or even ideas, it all comes down to the need to control.


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